Honesty From An Unlikely Place

As I don’t own a television so I read a great number of blogs. Of course I read many of the Manosphere blogs. I also read blogs written by women and those that cater to women, even the “mass market” blogs. So I’m over at Jezebel (no link from me!) reading a column written by a particularly loathsome fellow who is a well-known for penning misandrist opinion pieces (again, no link from me!). This particular column wasted a lot of words castigating men, as the writer consistently does.

In the comments section I expected the same echo-chamber mentality with too many readers singing the praises of the misandric notions in the column. Rather, I found this incredibly honest statement:

I am a woman. I am an occasionally over-emotional, over-reacting woman. Throughout my teenage years I constantly destroyed healthy relationships by being mean, deceitful, self-absorbed and down-right manipulative, and the boys and friends I was involved with were left hurt.

One of the BEST THINGS about my husband is he tells me, flat out, when I’m being a bitch/crazy person and won’t tolerate it. He never does this self-deprecating thing, but I do not believe his ‘gaslighting’ is a manipulative tool. If he didn’t do it, I would spend a whole lot more time being angry or crazy, and that would be shit.

I know many women. A lot of them are actually fucking crazy, like me. A lot if them are (at times) jealous, needy, over-emotional, irrational, bitchy and immature. I know their partners and I hope to God those men have the spine to tell them so.

But I am not so hopeful, and here’s why:

I am a teacher, and I work in an all boy’s school. I am doing my masters in boy’s education. At my school, Mothers are not allowed to attend parent teacher nights, because teachers found when they did, Mothers talked over Fathers who were answering targeted questions:
“so Mr X, how often do you and Tom spend time together?”
” Well… We read the paper together on-“
“Ha! You haven’t done that in weeks, you just play that stupid Wii together”.
They would also frequently put down their husbands and sons in front of others and generally micro-manage everything. But everyone is too scared to tell the woman to SHUT UP because that would be totally misogynistic.

So the son grows up with a controlling, overbearing Mum, who is constantly cranky, unimpressed, over-emotional, yelling at him. Then he meets a girl who behaves like that, as she has a puffed up sense of entitlement thanks to some feminists decades ago. She reads Jezebel and truly believes that if he ever suggests she may be over reacting about anything, or is down on himself, then he is manipulating her, the bastard. This lovely young man ends up in a shit relationship with an empty wallet because HE’S the oppressor.

Ridiculous. Everyone just needs to treat each other with respect and honesty, WOMEN INCLUDED.

And p.s. I do more housework than my husband does, because although we both work full-time, he works on average 10hrs more than me a week and earns twice as much as me. He would help out more if I asked him to, but I can see that for this to be an EQUAL relationship, I should take care of the home instead of spouting ‘recent studies’ about how he’s a shit human because I don’t like cleaning our toilet.

It could be argued that this comment was written by someone familiar with the Manosphere. It might have been written by a sock puppet (link below). It hits almost too many of the common Manosphere themes such as the bossy and domineering woman, schools being bad for boys, female entitlement, etc. Regardless, the comment is excellent.

In a follow-up comment, the author of the quote above had this to say:

However, a boy will never be a man if he is just following orders from a woman (his mother and one day a wife), he needs to independently step up to the expectations of positive male role models.

That’s amazing.

Sock puppet

 

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  1. #1 by Shea on July 8, 2012 - 3:00 PM

    Haha that made me smile.

    Link?

  2. #2 by Old Glory on July 8, 2012 - 3:30 PM

    Haha ditto.

    If only people could take those words and turn them into actions. Easier said than done I guess….

  3. #3 by driversuz on July 8, 2012 - 5:27 PM

    I can’t believe that comment wan’t immediately deleted, and I applaud you for having the discipline to read such sites.

  4. #4 by freetard on July 8, 2012 - 9:00 PM

    I found the linked article. Reading and posting on Jezebel just makes me wonder how sad and horrible their lives must be, especially when a man does it defending an article. I just can’t picture being so scared of the world and having such a delusional take on everything.

    When the collapse happens what are these people going to do? They can’t rewrite history enough to change their past views. Will the Government be able to afford to take care of them all?

    • #5 by Andrew Medina on July 9, 2012 - 6:52 PM

      “When the collapse happens what are these people going to do?”

      They’ll die. The cruelty of nature will prove us to be the correct ones.

  5. #6 by Infantry on July 8, 2012 - 9:04 PM

    Insightful.

    It brightens up my day when I see women breaking ranks and calling out the sisterhood on things like this. Sure NAWALT, but its been taboo for years to draw attention that women do get irrational sometimes and get a pass for it. In a healthy relationship the man is meant to see it for what it is and stay strong until the storm passes, not bow down to whimsy as if commanded by the queen. For her part, the women should acknowledge (at least in her own mind) that she was irrational after the fact and not give the guy a hard time about staying the course.

    The nature of women used to be explained by fathers to sons, but it seems to have become much more esoteric in blue pill land over the past few generations.

  6. #7 by Senior Beta on July 8, 2012 - 9:33 PM

    It’s so on the money that one would think a guy wrote it. But there are red pill women. Walsh, Space Traveller, etc. Maybe some of them get it after all.

  7. #8 by Jehu on July 9, 2012 - 1:03 AM

    Man, or woman over 35, possibly quite a bit over 35. Women over that age frequently develop a reasonable degree of self-awareness.

  8. #9 by Human-Stupidity.com on July 9, 2012 - 4:55 AM

    Great post. I wish there could be academic research to bolster such anecdotal statements.

    Of course, such academic research would be blocked by feminists.

    Visit http://human-stupidity.com/irrationality/stupid-dogma/mens-rights-feminism and comment there. Consider putting human-stupidity.com on your blog roll.

  9. #10 by Marellus on July 9, 2012 - 5:51 AM

    Thanks for this one.

  10. #11 by NMH on July 9, 2012 - 6:24 AM

    You felt hope just for one moment……

    This will bring you back to reality:

    • #12 by wingman on July 9, 2012 - 10:58 AM

      Ouch. The repulse reflect is in full gear.

      • #13 by NMH on July 9, 2012 - 12:02 PM

        At 3:25 she gives you her opinion of “who pays” (to address a former post inquiry).

        In my humble opinion, she needs to be tied up and lashed with a bull whip until she comes around.

    • #14 by Chewie on July 9, 2012 - 5:24 PM

      Can she finish a coherent thought?! Can she not sound like a 15 year old drama queen?

      • #15 by P Ray on July 10, 2012 - 1:45 PM

        She sounds like a 15 year old drama queen to get out of the idea that she is in any way expected to reciprocate you.
        Which happens when women extract favours from men they don’t want to pay back.
        Sometimes someone acting scatterbrained is doing so to avoid paying back.
        They have plenty of attention for the people they want to impress.

  11. #16 by Dirt Man on July 9, 2012 - 9:21 AM

    This is awesome. I can’t find any fault with what she is saying, probably because it’s simply the truth. I can only hope that women will read that and either identify with it deep down, or begin to question all the shit they swallow whole at sites like that. Thanks for being able to read that site and mine it for this gem.

    Right on PM.

  12. #17 by LostSailor on July 9, 2012 - 3:26 PM

    Damn you, TPM, damn you to hell!

    I lost most of my lunch hour in the petri dish of Jezebel. Particularly one feminist rant about advice given for men and women on online dating sites. The advice was pretty tame Red Pill stuff: Men need to be more aggressive, take the lead, etc., and women need to be more feminine, knock some items off the 436-point checklist, and not be bitchy. You know, advice that will allow them to be more successful at online dating.

    This, apparently, will not do. This advice is “gendered” and only serves to reinforce gender stereotypes. But because gender stereotypes harm all women at all times, women on online dating sites need to confront and confound those gendered stereotypes in their profiles, online behavior, and on dates. You know, for the sisterhood, and all.

    That’s gonna work.

    I think I need a strong whiskey now…

    • #18 by NMH on July 9, 2012 - 4:57 PM

      I guess what really shocks me is the lack of intellectual honesty when women analyze themselves. They simply cannot admit to wanting a man who takes the lead and is better than themselves.

      I think Ill have a whiskey too.

      • #19 by AnonWriter on July 10, 2012 - 11:00 AM

        Women have been brainwashed their entire lives about what they’re supposed to want, and they’ve fully bought into it all. Over and over again, women will tell men what they ‘want’, and it’s no surprise that men have come to believe what women are telling them. It’s in magazines, TV shows, movies, websites, everywhere. There does exist a handful of men in this world who realize, however, that what a woman says about what she wants and what a woman really wants are often two completely different things.

        Now, what happens when such a woman receives everything that she thinks and says she wants? She feels strangely unhappy and unfulfilled, and this confuses. It’s confusing to others around her also. After all, she has everything she (or any other woman) could have ever ‘wanted’. However, when you recognize the effects of social programming on women, the unhappiness makes complete sense: she is out of touch with her own needs and, as a result, her man isn’t supplying what she really needs in their relationship. This is not the man’s fault, because she (and society) have constantly fed him bad information, day after day, year after year, about his responsibilities and what her needs are supposed to be.

        So what does the man do in the face of his woman’s unhappiness? He tries even harder to please his woman. He keeps doing what didn’t work before, and he does it with even more vigor. And what does this have the effect of doing? It makes him even more undesirable, probably even repugnant to her. She doesn’t understand it, so she chalks it up to love being lost or some other rationalization. The man feels lost and frustrated – he feels like he’s done everything right, given her everything she’s ever wanted, and this is the result? The relationship ends, but all is not lost because this is his watershed moment – when he is finally capable of seeing some truth in the world.

        I guess it all boils down to one thing: the human condition does not change just because a group of people want it to change.

    • #20 by theprivateman on July 9, 2012 - 5:03 PM

      Hey, YOU were the one who found yourself over there. I didn’t even favor that wretched hive of scum and villainy with a link! Jezebel is quite awful.

      I’m enjoying a rum and cola. It’s South Florida after all it’s an appropriate cocktail for the environs.

      • #21 by Andrew Medina on July 9, 2012 - 6:50 PM

        Nice to see someone else who enjoys the go-to cheap cocktail.

      • #22 by theprivateman on July 9, 2012 - 6:51 PM

        And a fine cocktail it be!

      • #23 by LostSailor on July 9, 2012 - 7:25 PM

        See…! After only a short time in the feminist cesspit, and I was already placing blame elsewhere in an unmanly manner. I’d hang my head in shame, but I’m already into a fine bottle of Eagle Rare and can feel the testosterone combating the feminist cancer.

        I don’t know how you do it, PM…

  13. #24 by Jorgez on July 9, 2012 - 9:52 PM

    Before coming across the secret world of the manosphere (visibly growing day by day, but even today an un-PC ghetto cordoned off from the mainstream media), I had developed a masochistic fascination for bitchosphere sites like Jezebel. Why? First, for the mainstream liberal media, they are practically the only linked-to sources of information regarding relations between the sexes. And when you enter inside, you discover a bizarro world of wild irrationality, fist-pumping coarseness, and relentless confrontationalism. The hamster is OD’ing on crack cocaine, has broken through its wheel and is trashing the hotel room all by itself. Oh, and peeing on the floor, too. And these are in no way marginal sites.

    I later understood that my guilty, perverse fascination with the bitchosphere had a valid reason: in its own symptomatic way, it reveals the sordid underbelly of the contemporary relationship between the sexes. The manosphere’s job is to bring clarity and reason to this ugly mess of an enigma. The insanity of the bitchosphere is a kind of wake-up call that already hints at the existence of the red pill.

  14. #25 by Infantry on July 9, 2012 - 9:54 PM

    I’m curious about the viability of proper academic red pill research. Recently I read a post by GirlWritesWhat on Reddit where she talks about a Law professor she knows who can’t speak openly about the bias in family court under threat of losing his tenure. She also mentions that its possible for people to get their PhD’s by writing about gendered DV or rape (eg male propogated only).

    I’m wondering how far this thinking extends into academia. How long until someone can get some directed research on the impact of divorce, child support and loss of custody specifically on fathers for instance. Or do a survey of 1000 unmarried men from the ages of 30 to 35 and determine their attitudes to marriage.

    Does anyone have any sources for how feminist orientated universities are now? Or examples of red pill research by stealth, where you suspect a paper was written by a red piller but couched it in PC feminist friendly language to get it through the system?

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