It’s been confirmed, I will be giving a dating class and presentation for women. It will be a 90 minute class complete with a PowerPoint presentation, questions and answers and a lunch with a glass of wine as part of the overall cost. I’m not going to be making big money but it could yield a few hundred bucks of beer money for me.
About a year and a half ago I was living in another Florida city and my regular hangout was a wine bar and cafe and was very popular with women. It was a pretty cool place and I became friends with the owners, a husband and wife team. The wife pretty much ran the place and was always looking for events to fill the seats, usually live music. A month ago she held a singles night and 18 women showed up. No men showed up. She actually texted me desperate to get a man, any man, to be there. I couldn’t make it because of the 65 mile trip North after work. Plus, I had to go home to walk my dog.
That singles night gave me an idea. As I have already prepared a class for men, why not do a dating class for women? The owners of the restaurant have a list of about 2000 email addresses, most of them of women. I pitched the idea to the restaurant owner and she loved it. We’ve finally ironed most out the details and the class is on. The restaurant will be doing the marketing, I just have to complete the PowerPoint presentation and wrangle some other details.
I love the irony. I am a definite Red Pill man and I will be up in front of a couple dozen women dispensing Manosphere-oriented dating and relationship advice. Of course, I’m going to temper some of the harder truths with a bit of the “you go, grrl!” stuff much like Evan Marc Katz does. Frankly, I don’t want to be physically attacked in the event I cause a mortal wound to two dozen rationalization hamsters.
I won’t reveal too much more information as that might “out” me and I then would lose my anonymous status prematurely. If any reader wants to know more, use the email address in the Contact page and I will get back to you.
This is going to be very interesting.
Hughman
/ October 9, 2011Suddenly; two dozen new notches
theprivateman
/ October 9, 2011Yeah, I’ve been hearing that already from my local friends.
Actually, this is not my intention. Seriously.
Hughman
/ October 9, 2011I gathered, aha. Just thought I’d point it out
Arch
/ October 9, 2011The mind boggles.
Are you going to steer them away from alpha chasing?
Can you actually teach a woman to be happy with a beta?
Won’t their hamsters just override anything logical you explain to them?
I think you’ve found the topic for your next book…
theprivateman
/ October 9, 2011There will be elements to this class which will be intensely challenging. I read this great quote from another dating coach:
“The more good you find in men, the more good men you will find.”
I think I will start with that quote and expand upon it.
I’ve also been reading Evan Marc Katz’s blog and watching his free videos. His approach is very clever and obviously successful.
Randy
/ October 9, 2011It will be interesting to see if women will be honest in such a setting about they really want as opposed to what they say they want. The perspective you gain from this venture could greatly enhance the advice you give on this forum and in your book. I hope you can give us some details — without giving yourself away.
theprivateman
/ October 9, 2011The group dynamics will be fascinating.
Will the women amongst themselves seek to validate the their own wrong opinions? (Rationalization Hamster Relay Race)
Will the women agree with me in order to pre-select themselves to me? (Gina Tingle 500 – Successful public speaking is Alpha)
Probably 70% will be generally receptive, 20% will want their money back, 10% will want to have a quickie with me in the parking lot.
Guest
/ October 9, 2011“Rationalization Hamster Relay Race” Ha ha ha… great!!!
Ya Boy Matt
/ October 9, 2011The herd mentality will be in full effect.
- Men need to “Man up”
- Where have all the good men gone?
- THE LIST
In the end I think you are trying to fight the tide by doing anything except feed into these (likely 30 and 40 something) spinsters biases and profit handsomely from it.
I’ve done so in the sexual marketplace, I welcome you doing the same in the true marketplace.
theprivateman
/ October 9, 2011I’m going to be using the Socratic method to full effect.
I don’t think I will be fighting the tide. There is an enormous amount of female frustration regarding dating and relationships. Perhaps the marketplace (sexual or otherwise) is ready for some Red Pill medicine.
Bronan the Barbarian!
/ October 9, 2011This is absolutely hilarious. You’d better post a rundown of the event when it’s over.
theprivateman
/ October 9, 2011If I can get things sorted out, I’ll have a video of the whole thing. No guarantees, however.
dannyfrom504
/ October 9, 2011well, you know where i stand on this. i’m sure we’ll talk more about this later. just let me know when and where.
stay up.
Looking Glass
/ October 9, 2011The video/audio of the event should be classic, regardless. You should get at least 1 that you can visibly watch the wheels turn. That’s always fun.
anonymous x
/ October 9, 2011If doing audio/video, you may have to get your attendees to sign a release for that if you want to release portions or all of the material to the public for fun or profit. I guess best to do audio track over the powerpoint presentation. In any case, you will likely want to record it for yourself so that you can go over it afterward with an eye toward improving your presentation should you want to do it again (i.e. “back by popular demand!”).
Johnny Milfquest
/ October 10, 2011You could give the lecture behind one of those bulletproof screens they use in court when war criminals or mafia informants give evidence.
Seriously though, good work privateman. Keep us all posted.
NMH
/ October 10, 2011Of course, you need to think about how you make your entrance…in full robocop regalia….
I would think the most challenging aspect is to get across to women that they don’t have equal value to men. Women have pounded into their heads that they are equals with each other in terms of attraction to men and all they have to do is find that “special someone”. The few times I have broached the concept of SMV (some people are more desired by the opposite sex than others) with the gf she shuts down and gets mad. They don’t want to hear that dating is about SMV and “the numbers game”. Instead, they want to hear that the special alpha is out there for them if they wait long enough, but wearing some unique earrings and smiling more might speed up the process.
Far better you and me in this situation. I would grab the 10 bucks, and say “do 3 sets of 5 rep squats three days a week, hit the treadmill, be sweet, and you will get your guy” (note the relative proportion of exercise to personality). Needless to say, I need to keep my STEM INTJ job.
Good luck.
Billy
/ October 10, 2011Dude,
Can I purchase a franchise? I would love to do this around my city. If I do it, I will have a money back guarantee that if they find my advice to be bad or erroneous, full refund.
Billy
/ October 10, 2011Lots of humor intermixed will keep the lynch mob at bay.
theprivateman
/ October 10, 2011I’ve done a bit of stand-up and improvisational comedy and did pretty well. Frankly, I am a serious ham and really enjoy being in front of an audience.
wingman
/ October 10, 2011The red pill conversations I’ve had with lady friends tend to go the same way – there’s some intellectual agreement in principle, followed by a few questions and examples, then, a distinct sadness wafts into the room. The reactions go from, ‘so what else is new’ to ‘it’s a cruel world indeed’. It will be interesting to specifically gauge the variety of reactions you get, and then put them up for discussion. Here’s the trick: your class will be successful if the women come away with some real hope and optimism. The Louisville slugger of reality may just be too much if that’s all they get.
theprivateman
/ October 10, 2011I have every intention of giving some hope and optimism.
I also have a couple of killer exercises to get the women thinking very differently about men in general.
The class will end on a major high note. The rationalization hamsters will be fed.
108spirits
/ October 10, 2011That class will be like teaching a cat how to waltz by lifting its front paws up with your hands and moving it around. It’s fun at first for you, and the cat is mildly curious. However, you know at the back of your mind that the cat doesn’t really like it, and at some point, your hands will get clawed.
Please do take videos though (cat waltzing optional).
dannyfrom504
/ October 11, 2011i’m going to make every effort to be there. maybe as a “lurker” to gauge the women’s responses to what you teach. a fly on the wall if you will.
Rollo Tomassi
/ October 13, 2011Where in Florida are you doing this? If it’s close I may want to ‘audit’ the class myself.
Badger
/ October 16, 2011Your skills as a moderator will be critical. The first time a woman says “all the men i date are jerks!” and the rest of them start banging their glasses you will need to control the frame and get back on topic or it will become a big kvetching session.