Amanda Marcotte Urges Men To Learn Game!

Stop the presses!

Send snow to Hell!

Amanda Marcotte urges men to learn Game.It’s all part of the elevatorgate nonsense that continues on. Here is what she said:

The onus is on men not to be creepy.

Link here.

In case she pulls the comment, here is the full screen shot:


Notice how she conflates “creepy” with “unsafe”. Also notice the vague hypocrisy that the needs of a woman come first. Equality much?

And the best way to avoid the “creepy” factor? GAME!

Let’s not forget what “creepy” means in womanspeak, it means BETA. It means men who can’t read minds. It means men who are socially awkward. It means NiceGuys©. It means White Knights. It means manginas.

All of whom are part of the rape culture according to feminists. Every man who is not attractive to women is a potential rapist.

Never, ever forget that.

So to all the Beta guys looking to avoid the creepy factor, learn and practice Game. Do it with feminists. Make ‘em tingle. Then mess with their heads by reverting back to Beta the next morning.

Rationalization hamsters will die en masse.

Oh, what’s the female equivalent to a Beta man?

Fat girl.

As part of the gender-flip exercise, every time a woman says “creepy guy”, replace it with “fat girl” and watch the hilarity ensue.

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  1. #1 by Nergal on July 17, 2011 - 2:53 AM

    I noticed the safety thing right away. Number one, the kind of men who are unsafe for women to be around are the ones they don’t think are creepy,Ted Bundy got on like gangbusters with women, just before he raped and then bludgeoned or strangled them. Female lawyers are fraternizing (and by “fraternizing”,of course, I mean having sex with them unsupervised in their cells) with convicted rapists in prison in record numbers, and by “record numbers”,I mean any numbers at all. If a man did that, HE’D be in jail for rape for using his “superior position” to “coerce sex from a woman”.

    Women aren’t really concerned about their safety when they’re on their knees sucking 9 Millimeter’s dick in his cell 5 days after he was convicted of raping and dismembering 3 women or when they’re chatting it up with that “exciting” good-looking charismatic guy who just happens to show up to offer them a ride. No. Who are they afraid of? Joe Everyman who wants to give them a free cup of coffee in a public space or offer them flowers and candy to make up for the fact that he isn’t particularly charismatic or comfortable talking to women because EVERY THING HE HAS EVER SAID TO A WOMAN HAS BEEN CRUELLY AND MINUTELY SCRUTINIZED IN FRONT OF HIM BY SAID WOMAN.

    There’s the source of your “creepy”,btw,Marcotte. The reason some guys are “creepy” is because they haven’t been able to develop the social skills to entertain a woman because you’ve always treated them like scum.

    I’ve seen it.

    I got laid before I had pubes, but 2 of my best buddies, intellectual types, didn’t lose their virginity until they were 16 (with my assistance,I procured the females and laid the groundwork for them, status-building,etc.). Why? Overbearing mothers who made them feel like shit because they were boys and not girls, and the resultant lack of confidence this produced, reinforced by years of striking out because of all these factors.

    Women are,of course,in no danger from betas,unless they’re deathly allergic to flowers or truffles.Therefore, I would say the onus is on women not to create these “creepy” men by not spending years perfecting psychological castration of men and then haphazardly practicing it on unsuspecting people for no reason. I know the feminists will intentionally misrepresent this as a case for entitlement to sex from women, but what I am really saying here is that the creepiness is created by your needless catty bitchiness in your everyday dealings with men. What’s wrong with “No,thanks.”? Why do you have to go instantly to “Go suck your own dick,you fag loser!OMG,can you believe he just tried to TALK to me!?” How many times have men seen you looking at them,walked over, threw a drink in your face and said “Have fun with your vibrator,you fat,loser,COW!”. I would bet that this almost never happens,statistically.Can’t you grasp the relationship between being cruelly psychologically abused by every woman you talk to and maybe having a hard time finding the right thing to say to a woman? It’s not like these guys got up that morning and said “Hey, you know what, I’m gonna totally fuck up approaching a woman today,and I am REALLY gonna creep her out!”. It isn’t their fault, it’s yours,YOU made them “creepy” by not telling them that you’re interested in money,power,and social status, and instead filling their heads with a bunch of stupid crap about how you’re “open to new experiences” (clearly not so,isn’t it, Elevator Guy?),poetry,flowers,wanting to be “swept off your feet” and so on. They’re just trying to give you what you claimed to want. The rest of us know you DON’T want these things,but it was one hell of a mindfuck getting to that point. It doesn’t make any sense to a man to claim you like things you actually find “creepy”. So quit fucking around and put what you actually want out there. Just once I’d like to see a woman with a personal ad that reads “Looking for giant horse cock to pulverize my cunt,looks optional, but money is a necessity.”,the honesty would be more refreshing than getting a blowjob from a chick with a mouthful*of junior mints.

    *mints in her mouth or mine, doesn’t matter either way.

    • #2 by NMH on July 19, 2011 - 6:37 AM

      During my creepy days, I got nervous around women because I was so taken with their beauty. Its funny that women are so turned off by the same men that would likely do anything for them, including work themselves to death.

      As you said, its the really smooth guys that women have to look out for–those are the sociopaths that may pump or dump or kill them.

  2. #3 by johnnymilfquest on July 17, 2011 - 6:44 AM

    Yes, the onus is definitely on men to learn Game and women to be slim.

  3. #4 by detinennui32 on July 17, 2011 - 7:44 AM

    Dammit, Privateman, you owe me a new computer.

    It’s posts like this that make this blog one of my favorite stops.

    And Amanda Marcotte is the hilarious gift that keeps on giving.

    Oh, Amanda. You’re just a girly girl at heart.

    • #5 by theprivateman on July 17, 2011 - 10:57 AM

      It’s not very often that I stick my toe in the foul waters of feminist issues and bloggers. Yet when the stench gets overpowering (Pandagon.net, feministe.us, etc), I simply can’t resist pointing out the smelliest bit of offal so that the Manosphere can learn more about women, especially feminist women. Amanda and her minions are doing more to support the Manosphere than they know.

      I’m not going to change my post but I do wish to make an adjustment. The female equivalent to “creepy guy” is not just “fat girl”, it’s also “bossy and domineering harridan”, or perhaps “Amanda Marcotte”.

  4. #6 by 1lettuce on July 17, 2011 - 10:09 AM

    “The onus is on men not to be creepy.”

    I.e.: “It’s all your damn fault, men!”

  5. #7 by 1lettuce on July 17, 2011 - 10:11 AM

    Ugh, I can’t even go through the comments section of that page: so many paragraphs about nothing! Hatred of men, hatred of PUA, hatred of Game, promotion of feminism, etc.

    It seems to me that Feminists are women who can never truly be happy.

  6. #8 by Looking Glass on July 17, 2011 - 12:26 PM

    @ 1lettuce:

    “It seems to me that Feminists are women who can never truly be happy.” A friend pointed out to me in college that a “Feminist” is a woman that wants to sleep around “like a man”. But not a PUA or Game man, but the Apex Fallacy Alpha. Any guy with his head on straight knows while the tail can be good up there, that the Apex Alpha isn’t really the place you normally want to be in life and comes with severe downsides.

    Which is why the defend certain things with us viciousness. They feel so pathetic in their “inner selves” that they must be above people. That’s really what it’s about.

  7. #9 by Acksiom on July 17, 2011 - 2:45 PM

    If women need to be safe, let them do what men do to be safe.

  8. #10 by detinennui32 on July 17, 2011 - 4:04 PM

    Nergal:

    “How many times have men seen you looking at them,walked over, threw a drink in your face and said “Have fun with your vibrator,you fat,loser,COW!”. I would bet that this almost never happens,statistically.

    “They’re just trying to give you what you claimed to want. The rest of us know you DON’T want these things,but it was one hell of a mindfuck getting to that point. It doesn’t make any sense to a man to claim you like things you actually find “creepy”. So quit fucking around and put what you actually want out there. Just once I’d like to see a woman with a personal ad that reads “Looking for giant horse cock to pulverize my cunt,looks optional, but money is a necessity.”,the honesty would be more refreshing than getting a blowjob from a chick with a mouthful*of junior mints.”

    These are the choice bits. The entire essay is totally epic.

  9. #11 by John Rambo on July 18, 2011 - 2:44 AM

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    American women are generally immature, selfish, extremely arrogant and self-centered, mentally unstable, irresponsible, and highly unchaste. The behavior of most American women is utterly disgusting, to say the least.

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  10. #12 by dannyfrom504 on July 18, 2011 - 7:47 AM

    “As part of the gender-flip exercise, every time a woman says “creepy guy”, replace it with “fat girl” and watch the hilarity ensue.”

    this made me laugh.

    i’ve come to terms with the fact that my being a man will surely bring about the ruination of the universe.

    *yawn*

    in the meantime…..be a darling and fetch me a beer.

  11. #13 by NMH on July 18, 2011 - 8:51 AM

    Yeah, I get tired of the “creepy” meme; Maybe because women thought I was creepy for so long, and I thought that was unfair. Now when I detect a woman thinks I am a creep I never interact with her again.

    I think that modern woman have set their creep alarms to full sensitivity so when the equivalence was a omega male in the past, that has been raised to beta.

  12. #14 by Blues on July 18, 2011 - 10:33 AM

    “The onus is on men not to be creepy.”

    The problem here is that this is very clear to manosphere men, but for your average guy this is so incredibly veiled in womenspeak it’s pretty much useless, it’s akin to writing “men need to learn game” in ancient Aramaic.

    Well, at least we can lol at her finally admitting the truth even if she denies it for the rest of her life.

  13. #15 by OffTheCuff on July 18, 2011 - 11:03 AM

    “Women’s need to be safe comes first.”

    So telling of a worldview in such a short sentence! Women’s needs always come first, and men must *implement* those needs. She didn’t say “my needs come first, and I need to take responsibility for that”. Nope, it’s always about Team Woman getting their needs met, with Team Man paying the bill.

    Sorry, but my needs come first. You of course can place your needs first, but I’m not going to do it for you. I’ve spent the first few decades of my life doing that. The ruse is up; you’re on your own.

    I do agree the onus of men is not to be creepy. It’s in our best interest, and with a tiny bit of knowledge, it’s easy to be un-creepy. But it’s the onus of women not to be fat and ugly — and it’s ain’t society’s or patriarchy’s fault if you are.

    Lettuce, you just learn to laugh at these twits. The great thing about feminism is that they are powerless over you, if you simply cease to believe in their bullshit.

    • #16 by dannyfrom504 on July 18, 2011 - 3:28 PM

      every girlfriend over the past 6-7 years has been told, “you’re the 4th most important thing in my life. priorities being-
      1-ME
      2-my family
      3-my career
      4- gf”

      NEVER had a gf give me crap about it either. sure they may say i’m #1 on their list, but that’s woman crap. i’m NOT a woman. no man should make a woman #1 on his list of life priorites.

      but that’s just me.

  14. #17 by Richard on July 18, 2011 - 12:02 PM

    @theprivateman – hilarity would indeed ensue. From listening to my wife’s friends, heads would explode – it would be a sad day for hamsters. Also, it’s amazing how clearly you could read between the lines of Amanda’s post. I enjoy when people can put words to fallacies being employed.

    @Nergal – you have really good stuff – all of it quotable. I’d read your blog if you had one.

  15. #18 by theprivateman on July 18, 2011 - 2:26 PM

    I used to think that Amanda is being willfully ignorant when she responds with comments like that.

    But I’m beginning to think that she simply lacks the intellectual horsepower to communicate in an effective and nuanced manner. Her posts and comments are all rather snarky, vaguely insulting, or outright sarcastic. This style of writing is not the hallmark of a deep thinker.

    Also, she doesn’t understand the privilege she is demanding regarding a woman’s safety being the responsibility of men. As for the “don’t be creepy” meme she and her ilk, it’s a laughable proposition for red pill men. We get it.

    But for the vast majority of other guys, they won’t get it.

  16. #19 by OffTheCuff on July 18, 2011 - 9:01 PM

    But I’m beginning to think that she simply lacks the intellectual horsepower to communicate in an effective and nuanced manner. Her posts and comments are all rather snarky, vaguely insulting, or outright sarcastic. This style of writing is not the hallmark of a deep thinker.

    Actually, I think she is very smart, but in the sense George Bush is smart. She is just not debating in a rational way; her aim is power, not truth. See Yohami’s parabale of the snake (http://yohami.com/blog/2011/07/18/logic-conflict-the-instincts-in-play/), which couldn’t be timed better.

    Also, she doesn’t understand the privilege she is demanding regarding a woman’s safety being the responsibility of men.

    Au contraire, I believe she fully understands it, as clear as a bell. That’s her goal.

    I think you vastly underestimate her firepower, through the lens of honest, rational debate.

  17. #20 by detinennui32 on July 19, 2011 - 9:32 AM

    it bears repeating:

    “creepy = unattractive beta”
    “creepy = socially awkward”
    “creepy = white knight/mangina”
    “creepy = Nice Guy being himself (TM)”

    Don’t forget this. If she says he’s creepy or weird, or she says she is “uncomfortable” around him, or she “freaks out” when he approaches, what she really means is: “He’s unattractive”.

    I suspect what Marcotte is really saying here is “the onus is on creepy men to know their place and not approach women.”

    • #21 by AlekNovy on August 10, 2011 - 2:33 AM

      I suspect what Marcotte is really saying here is “the onus is on creepy men to know their place and not approach women.”

      Ditto.

  18. #22 by detinennui32 on July 19, 2011 - 10:32 AM

    I read the Pandagon comments. “James” was asking questions about when men should learn the difference between casual flirting and female flirting inviting “something more”; and what those differences are. He also noted his friends’ teenage daughters fliriting with others.

    Marcotte scolded him for “conflating” flirting with accosting a woman in an elevator. And she sufficiently ran him off the board. The remaining comments talk essentially about how the “nice guy” phenomenon is a ruse, a “persona” adopted by PUAs, or a cover for more sinister intentions. And in any event, according to the Pandagon commentariat, no man should ever “corner” a woman in an elevator at 4 am inviting her to his room for coffee after hearing her talk about how she hates being hit on all the time.

    A few observations:

    1. I bet Ms. Watson would not have thought the man “creepy” if she had found him attractive.
    2. How is the man supposed to know she doesn’t find him attractive unless he asks for her time and sees if there is interest?
    3. Again: if she finds him unattractive and he approaches boldly, he’s a creep who makes her uncomfortable. But if she finds hm attractive and he approaches her, he’s an alpha who takes control.
    4. Men need to learn IOIs, how to flirt, and about women’s natures. And they need to be taught this as soon as they hit puberty. They especially need to be taught not to be “nice guys (TM)”.
    5. OTC is on to something here. This is about power, not improving male-female relations.

  19. #23 by detinennui32 on July 19, 2011 - 10:39 AM

    After reading things like I see on the Pandagon comments, I sometimes wonder why I even bother.

    • #24 by NMH on July 19, 2011 - 10:49 AM

      I think women would get a clue about how rude and unreasonable this is to men if we acted in a reverse manner. say, seeing a fat chick on a bus and getting as far away from her as possible.

      I dont see myself doing this, because I want to set a standard of politeness.

      Needless to say women just want all of the creeps to just know that they are creeps and just go away.

  20. #25 by YOHAMI on July 19, 2011 - 12:31 PM

    I cant get myself to read Marcotte

  21. #26 by Kevin on August 1, 2011 - 2:07 PM

    I’m with you Yohami. I just heard about her today and only made it through half a post before I couldn’t take anymore.

    Anyway, this isn’t the first time I heard a woman complain about creepy guys talking to them. The conclusion was the same in that article too; It’s only OK to approach a woman if she thinks you’re attractive, however, if she “feels” uncomfortable in any way, it’s practically the same thing as assault.

    That being said, I just got caught up on this whole elevatorgate thing. What’s the big deal?

    I agree that the guy was creepy, but he didn’t do anything wrong. He made an offer, she said “no,” they both went on their way.

    She didn’t really do anything wrong either…how did this get so blown out of proportion?

  22. #27 by Jennifer on August 22, 2011 - 3:15 PM

    “So to all the Beta guys looking to avoid the creepy factor, learn and practice Game. Do it with feminists. Make ‘em tingle. Then mess with their heads by reverting back to Beta the next morning”

    Are you genuinely advising loose sex?

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